the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the rich. he says he's going to offset that, but when asked by wolf blitzer, are you going after where the money is, the mortgage deduction? rule going after charitable, which everybody seems to like? i'm not going to keep those preferences. how can he do it? is he houdini? >> he can't do it. the tax policy center says you can get rid of all of the deductions and it wouldn't pay -- and that's what they do cost before they're offset. that's just a fact. he's actually misquoting the president's campaign manager, but he then goes on to say, well, maybe we can't set a limit of $17,000 or $20,000 or $25,000. that would be the total deductions you could take. for a lot of middle-class fame with prett